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    Book II - Page 2

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    movements,
    that is, of rhythm or harmony, as they are called, to us, the Gods, who,
    as we say, have been appointed to be our companions in the dance, have
    given the pleasurable sense of harmony and rhythm; and so they stir us
    into life, and we follow them, joining hands together in dances and songs;
    and these they call choruses, which is a term naturally expressive of
    cheerfulness. Shall we begin, then, with the acknowledgment that education
    is first given through Apollo and the Muses? What do you say?

    CLEINIAS: I assent.

    ATHENIAN: And the uneducated is he who has not been trained in the chorus,
    and the educated is he who has been well trained?

    CLEINIAS: Certainly.

    ATHENIAN: And the chorus is made up of two parts, dance and song?

    CLEINIAS: True.

    ATHENIAN: Then he who is well educated will be able to sing and dance
    well?

    CLEINIAS: I suppose that he will.

    ATHENIAN: Let us see; what are we saying?

    CLEINIAS: What?

    ATHENIAN: He sings well and dances well; now must we add that he sings
    what is good and dances what is good?

    CLEINIAS: Let us make the addition.

    ATHENIAN: We will suppose that he knows the good to be good, and the bad
    to be bad, and makes use of them accordingly: which now is the better
    trained in dancing and music--he who is able to move his body and to use
    his voice in what is understood to be the right manner, but has no delight
    in good or hatred of evil; or he who is incorrect in gesture and voice,
    but is right in his sense of pleasure and pain, and welcomes what is good,
    and is offended at what is evil?

    CLEINIAS: There is a great difference, Stranger, in the two kinds of
    education.

    ATHENIAN: If we three know what is good in song and dance, then we truly
    know also who is educated and who is uneducated; but if not, then we
    certainly shall not know wherein lies the safeguard of education, and
    whether there is any or not.

    CLEINIAS: True.

    ATHENIAN: Let us follow the scent like hounds, and go in pursuit of beauty
    of figure, and melody, and song, and dance; if these escape us, there will
    be no use in talking about true education, whether Hellenic or barbarian.

    CLEINIAS: Yes.

    ATHENIAN: And what is beauty of figure, or beautiful melody? When a manly
    soul is in trouble, and when a cowardly soul is in similar case, are they
    likely to use the same figures and gestures, or to give utterance to the
    same sounds?

    CLEINIAS: How can they, when the very colours of their faces differ?

    ATHENIAN: Good, my friend; I may observe, however, in passing, that in
    music there certainly are figures and there are melodies: and music is
    concerned with harmony and rhythm, so that you may
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